Original setup was difficult due to lack of processes and experience on their side. We still stuck with it due to significant savings over AWS.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5d71ace4d36e1d51647e4169","create_date":"2019-09-19T07:14:42.098Z"},{"profile_id":"5c630dafd36e1d4659892106","create_date":"2019-02-25T03:49:21.04Z"},{"profile_id":"5e884e55d36e1d2233f12963","create_date":"2020-04-06T21:03:52.684Z"},{"profile_id":"5ee7fb2dd36e1d3ec4baa93b","create_date":"2022-01-26T05:10:19.172Z"},{"profile_id":"61fc9ab5ced2100001d37dc3","create_date":"2022-02-06T21:07:35.645Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2018-12-07T22:41:21.622Z","profileid":"5abd8dc6d36e1d1b152c489e","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Azure and AWS are more aligned with traditional data centers and their needs. Both of these offerings allow you to control exactly what gets migrated to the cloud, and exactly how it gets migrated.
For example, if you just want out of the real estate business, you can migrate your servers to either platform - but you still need to manage to OS, the software, updates, patching, etc. Or, you could adopt a model where the database is in the cloud - the service provider handles the hardware, OS, and even the database software - including patching and updates. You only are responsible for the data and who has access to it.
Google doesn't seem to be embracing that model. And Oracle is trying to catch up, but as is typical, they are far overpriced for what they deliver. Not sure how IBM with their purchase of Redhat will affect this in the coming years.
I think you are better off with AWS or Azure.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-03-02T02:26:44.669Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2018-12-07T22:42:41.51Z","profileid":"5aff0774d36e1d72942eee94","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I believe the security improvements in both products have out done those applied to Google. Just my opinion.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2021-05-30T15:00:05.224Z"},{"profile_id":"600bc7f9c56a7be28c186622","create_date":"2021-12-16T16:53:27.539Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2018-12-07T23:10:59.318Z","profileid":"5c0afd09f86d4ea68b8ea3ac","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Simple answer: Google has no enterprise empathy. Does not know how enterprises operate nor the context in which they make decisions","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"6021bdc9de74df0001c6f8ae","create_date":"2021-02-08T23:15:00.457Z"},{"profile_id":"601ae1670a34ed0001282831","create_date":"2021-03-03T06:17:21.227Z"},{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2021-06-22T15:00:08.726Z"},{"profile_id":"5f3e3750248dc9ddf46283e9","create_date":"2021-11-20T12:38:31.964Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-12-19T08:31:40.829Z"},{"profile_id":"61f00c9c4267680001b043c9","create_date":"2022-01-25T14:54:14.09Z"},{"profile_id":"61ab282c28ab7e0001f948f0","create_date":"2022-03-02T17:36:37.856Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2018-12-08T02:14:02.267Z","profileid":"5b57ab9cd36e1d3b695215f5","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Agree. AWS is the easiest to adopt. Azure is a natural extension because of AD and office. Google really doesn’t have much going for it. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5bd31092d36e1d1a29a07db2","create_date":"2018-12-08T20:30:31.755Z"},{"profile_id":"5c472adbd36e1d3a4218f28e","create_date":"2019-02-02T19:00:14.633Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-03-02T02:26:37.051Z"},{"profile_id":"60bcf9492ccdb60001be8be7","create_date":"2021-06-07T14:14:26.514Z"},{"profile_id":"6171d4df20f8c5000140a244","create_date":"2021-12-15T13:05:41.125Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-01-10T16:43:27.844Z","profileid":"5d71ace4d36e1d51647e4169","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Many organizations started out with AWS, but I think many enterprises are and have been looking at Azure beyond just a Iaas.
Azure has some advantages around workloads and apps, again beyond just offering you raw infrastructure.
","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5bd31092d36e1d1a29a07db2","create_date":"2019-01-20T01:29:44.704Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-01-25T22:55:59.033Z","profileid":"5c4b9242d36e1d569c56504f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"AWS offers more services and capabilities than anyone else. \nAzure has a longer history and technology base than anyone else.\nGoogle has google, it has never performed well in selling or servicing enterprises, only small to medium sized businesses. In the Cloud Wars, enterprises don’t want to go against developer inertia which means AWS or they don’t want to go against their interventions and legacy systems which means Azure. There is no room for Google at the table, they should accept this and change their strategy. Knowing Google however, they won’t do this and will instead continue wasting vast amounts of money trying anyway.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c603f14d36e1d06e96b7db9","create_date":"2019-02-10T21:01:30.922Z"},{"profile_id":"5c6082f0d36e1d0ab6640a01","create_date":"2019-02-12T19:06:19.784Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-03-02T02:28:02.287Z"},{"profile_id":"5a6cc2e0d36e1d5bc4265fa2","create_date":"2021-07-01T15:00:04.479Z"}],"replies":[{"createdate":"2022-02-10T02:08:53.535Z","profileid":"61fc9ab5ced2100001d37d12","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"AWS has a 6-8 **YEAR** head start on cloud vs Azure. Yes, Microsoft has been selling software to enterprises for longer, and they do make it commercially more attractive to adopt Azure. But if you follow an Azure scaffolding document, be prepared for network pai pain down the track","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5eebec1020f9b9b81713fa18","create_date":"2022-02-10T16:59:43.967Z"},{"profile_id":"603d4689570285000131b2b6","create_date":"2022-02-11T22:59:46.956Z"}],"replies":[]}]},{"createdate":"2019-01-27T19:05:00.324Z","profileid":"5c4dff08d36e1d1e1aebe7b9","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Where is the facts behind the question? Looking at many of the companies now such as Twitter which has now moved to Google Cloud, https://cloud.google.com/twitter/, shows that you don't need a bit service catalogue or marketleader to be considered the \"best\" If you look at the market shares and availability on a global aspect Amazon is the current market leader and also in terms of Service Catalogue. Microsoft of course has the existing footprint within the datacentre which they are leveraging to get customer on to move to Azure, also that they have regions available where none of the other cloud providers are available. They are also leveraging the fact that a lot of companies are using Office 365 with Identity and therefore it makes a bit more sense depending on the use case. But many companies I've talked with have already started to use Google Cloud because it is cloud-native and looking at the offering they have in terms of container platforms combining with other open source offerings such as Istio is a great combo. Of course they need to make them more revelant in the ecosystem, looking at the 100+ of partners which today have some sort of integration with AWS, Google is lacking far behind which makes it difficult for them to gain up to AWS, but looking at the rapid expansion and available with for instance Alibaba Cloud it can change. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5b7335edd36e1d42ea091ca7","create_date":"2021-07-02T15:00:03.499Z"},{"profile_id":"5a6cc2e0d36e1d5bc4265fa2","create_date":"2021-12-06T15:00:17.219Z"},{"profile_id":"61fc9ab5ced2100001d37a96","create_date":"2022-02-10T23:26:39.651Z"}],"replies":[{"createdate":"2019-01-27T19:50:32.45Z","profileid":"5c4b9242d36e1d569c56504f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Please provide better examples than Twitter, who did not “move” to Google Cloud, they moved some basic data and compute. Twitter is doing a “hybrid cloud” strategy and continues to operate all of its own infrastructure for the actual real-time events and such. I fail to see how this is a good example of companies flocking to Google Cloud.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a4d42ccfb5e7e7155afcc0f","create_date":"2019-01-29T01:08:10.171Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-12-19T08:32:34.983Z"}],"replies":[]}]},{"createdate":"2019-01-28T21:03:13.775Z","profileid":"5b7335edd36e1d42ea091ca7","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Others have done a great job of articulating how and why AWS and Azure have gained a significant lead. From my perspective, and this may seem trivial, take a look at the GCP Console. It doesn't feel like any thought went into it and #UI + #UX matter greatly.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c7dd695d36e1d4fb55c6b5e","create_date":"2021-12-07T05:21:47.56Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-12-19T08:32:50.784Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-01T12:05:43.309Z","profileid":"5c543606d36e1d2752c38551","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"https://www.datamation.com/cloud-computing/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-cloud-comparison.html","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c4b9242d36e1d569c56504f","create_date":"2019-02-22T09:17:46.811Z"},{"profile_id":"5c546b83d36e1d534c17d289","create_date":"2019-02-03T01:08:37.981Z"},{"profile_id":"5c4a45aad36e1d6efbf752c1","create_date":"2019-02-03T13:55:15.036Z"},{"profile_id":"5b66ed94d36e1d2c12ff142c","create_date":"2019-04-22T23:32:31.977Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-03-02T02:29:00.984Z"},{"profile_id":"5c7f5742d36e1d4fb55c6b95","create_date":"2022-03-05T15:00:03.984Z"}],"replies":[{"createdate":"2019-02-01T14:53:28.957Z","profileid":"5c4b9242d36e1d569c56504f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"This was a good contribution Charles, thanks. ","upvoters":[],"replies":[]}]},{"createdate":"2019-02-01T16:41:41.712Z","profileid":"5c54762fd36e1d534c17d28e","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I am going to come from a different perspective. When in China there are problems accessing anything Google because of their ongoing issues with Chinese censorship. So if you travel internationally and do business in China, you would choose a different solution that does not have performance or access issues.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5d71ace4d36e1d51647e4169","create_date":"2019-09-12T01:45:47.846Z"},{"profile_id":"5c4a45aad36e1d6efbf752c1","create_date":"2019-02-26T18:45:12.296Z"},{"profile_id":"5a6cc2e0d36e1d5bc4265fa2","create_date":"2021-12-07T15:00:10.351Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-01T19:31:00.814Z","profileid":"5d71ace4d36e1d51647e4169","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"@Henry valid point regarding the google cloud. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c54762fd36e1d534c17d28e","create_date":"2019-02-03T15:22:26.024Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-02T13:30:34.772Z","profileid":"5c543606d36e1d2752c38551","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"For me I would not count IBM out, we found them responsive, having many products and services and their data center infrastructure is optically interconnected making a differentiation for global presence. They already have multiple products operating in this environment as SaaS or IaaS, inlcuding Maximo.","upvoters":[],"replies":[{"createdate":"2022-02-10T02:11:43.622Z","profileid":"61fc9ab5ced2100001d37d12","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"By 'optically interconnected' you mean dedicated submarine fiber connections?","upvoters":[],"replies":[]}]},{"createdate":"2019-02-03T01:17:00.315Z","profileid":"5b7335edd36e1d42ea091ca7","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Here's an older, but still reasonably relevant article about the Big 3 #Cloud providers --> https://dzone.com/articles/choosing-between-amazon-aws-microsoft-azure-and-go","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c636311d36e1d4659892133","create_date":"2020-05-19T22:27:36.594Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-03T14:32:55.355Z","profileid":"5c543606d36e1d2752c38551","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"https://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/news/252456820/Google-Cloud-Firestore-points-NoSQL-database-at-mobile-IoT?track=NL-1806&ad=925629&src=925629&asrc=EM_NLN_107403183&utm_medium=EM&utm_source=NLN&utm_campaign=20190201_Google%20challenges%20rivals%20in%20database%20market","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-04T02:50:25.39Z","profileid":"5c57a7f7d36e1d55609db456","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Google is well funded, grown substantially and has strong technical expertise AI and data analytics. However, amongst the three competitors, Amazon’s shows most optimistic, in market position, as their market share continues to lead today. Microsoft Azure, is a close competitor, in the cloud race, because of their exceptional cloud infrastructure. Enterprise customers like Azure because of their experience with hybrid cloud, especially if you have a datacenter. Yet, Amazon Web Service is most reliable because of their services and offerings. Most vendors, corporate customers and government integrate with AWS.
Historically, Google’s has not been able to draw the corporate customers. All signs are hopeful as Google’s new CEO, Thomas Kurian, takes the helm. A dynamic and results oriented CEO, Kurian’s experience with Oracle may change the cloud dynamics in drawing back corporate customers with new services and offerings.
","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5d0ab80a8b1e4e9bb551a6c3","create_date":"2021-07-05T15:00:01.776Z"}],"replies":[{"createdate":"2019-02-04T06:09:36.012Z","profileid":"5c4b9242d36e1d569c56504f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I reiterate, why does everyone thing Kurian will be better than Greene?","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2022-02-10T02:13:01.474Z","profileid":"61fc9ab5ced2100001d37d12","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":""exceptional cloud infrastructure". Do you mean Azure's exceptionally poor security?","upvoters":[],"replies":[]}]},{"createdate":"2019-02-04T04:05:30.503Z","profileid":"5a6a843ad36e1d5bc4265fa0","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I'm excited by the rich discussion on this topic. As a Google Cloud customer (Woven runs on gCloud) and a board member at Rackspace which has partnerships with all 3 companies, I can offer a few thoughts here.
First, to reiterate a couple of points: Google was both late to the party and really doesn't understand enterprise. However, I'll point out that Amazon didn't understand enterprise for a long time, and only recently became enterprise friendly. MSFT has proven time and again, being late to the party can have its advantages, and Google has the cash pile to be patient here.
I wouldn't totally count Google out at this time either. In addition to the cash pile, they have both the experience, the technical capability, and a significant differentiation. Many of Google's services are significantly more advanced than anything available on AWS or Azure - particularly AI based technologies. Moreover, with Thomas Kurian at the helm, they finally have a technology executive who can help come up with a real enterprise strategy for them.
All that said, one of the prime reasons that AWS has such a large advantage over Google is ecosystem. There's just so much more that is built for AWS, there is a lot more talent experienced with AWS. Microsoft didn't suffer from this because they fully understand enterprise ecosystems and built theirs quickly for Azure. Moreover, they have done a brilliant job integrating that ecosystem with their existing application offerings (e.g. O365).
In the end, Google has a LONG way to go to catch up, despite some superior technology. Kurian may accomplish that, but it will take some time and we'll probably keep seeing this same question through 2019 and into 2020 if not much longer. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c546b83d36e1d534c17d289","create_date":"2019-02-04T06:18:47.3Z"},{"profile_id":"5c603f14d36e1d06e96b7db9","create_date":"2019-02-28T03:38:45.077Z"},{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2019-11-21T19:02:04.52Z"},{"profile_id":"5c7f335ed36e1d4fb55c6b8d","create_date":"2019-03-06T07:34:01.818Z"},{"profile_id":"5c636311d36e1d4659892133","create_date":"2020-05-20T21:41:19.55Z"},{"profile_id":"5c7dd695d36e1d4fb55c6b5e","create_date":"2021-12-07T05:22:00.129Z"}],"replies":[{"createdate":"2019-02-04T06:08:29.437Z","profileid":"5c4b9242d36e1d569c56504f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Good response Timothy, my question for you is this, do you believe that Diane Green didn’t understand enterprises and wasn’t a technology executive? I think she was every bit as good as Kurian will be (I know here, I don’t know Kurian personally).\nOn your ecosystem response, all 3 have the ability to grow an ecosystem. Amazon is taking advantage of a solid strategy which is why they continue to dominate even as the market size expands at an incredible pace.","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-04T17:53:45.634Z","profileid":"5a6a843ad36e1d5bc4265fa0","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"@Dave - No I don't believe Diane Green understood the enterprise - not as a business person at least. Lots of evidence of this, from how she had to sell VMWare to EMC when she did to how poor of a job she did at Google building a real sales function and product ecosystem. I believe she is a visionary and exceptional technical leader (part of why Google hired her), but she has not demonstrated a capacity to run a business. Kurian (whom I do know personally) is not as strong as Diane is technically, but is technical and he understands product. He also understands how to bring products to market and how to grow a business. So I think he will make a difference.
I do agree with you on Amazon and strategy. Moreover, that is a company that has repeatedly demonstrated an ability to play in different markets. Just look at Amazon's success across books/online retail/cloud computing/consumer electronics/online content delivery/... Amazon has somehow avoided the issues that have dogged companies like Facebook, Google, and even MSFT which fail to understand why they have been successful in their core businesses and then try to apply the wrong solutions in new businesses that they get into.
Which perhaps is an even better argument as to why AWS is winning over GCP. I think the company has demonstrated a better ability to compete in new markets. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c546b83d36e1d534c17d289","create_date":"2019-02-04T23:18:12.403Z"},{"profile_id":"5a4d42ccfb5e7e7155afcc0f","create_date":"2019-02-05T04:19:09.258Z"},{"profile_id":"5c603f14d36e1d06e96b7db9","create_date":"2019-02-12T16:13:20.376Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-12-19T08:37:04.67Z"}],"replies":[]}]},{"createdate":"2019-02-04T14:00:42.906Z","profileid":"5c5844a8d36e1d43a6b23c09","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Simple. User experience, product market fit, and pricing with continuous innovation targeting specific customer needs. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a6cc2e0d36e1d5bc4265fa2","create_date":"2021-12-08T15:00:02.531Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-05T21:26:01.271Z","profileid":"5c59fe7dd36e1d48f75d4448","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Momentum is a big part of it. And most people are risk-averse, understandably so, to try something new. AWS is proven - it's like the old saying - no one got fired for choosing X. Azure is getting more popular, there are a lot of companies, especially those using the Microsoft technologies who are using it. Google is less proven, and a bigger risk. And Google's general attitude towards their customers and users, which is usually seen as uncaring and standoffish doesn't help.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5eebec1020f9b9b81713fa18","create_date":"2021-07-06T15:00:02.238Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-06T14:51:31.4Z","profileid":"5c5af366d36e1d3ada772a45","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"We use both AWS and Azure depending upon our product lines. We have the bulk of our offerings at AWS. The discussion is not complete without mentioning the several days of complete downtime in the south region in Azure last fall. You always have to prepare and plan for these from an application architecture standpoint but the response and communication from Microsoft left a lot to be desired here and solidifies my choice with AWS.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c7f5742d36e1d4fb55c6b95","create_date":"2021-07-07T15:00:02.314Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-12-19T08:37:30.212Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-10T17:40:21.27Z","profileid":"5c603f14d36e1d06e96b7db9","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"As others have mentioned, AWS got there first, has moved along the experience curve the longest, and accordingly developed the strongest ecosystem. Azure has rapidly come to rival AWS because Microsoft has unparalleled presence and experience in the enterprise space and because it has made Azure its top strategic priority.
Google is still fundamentally an advertising company, but with a lot of exceptional technical capabilities. It remains relatively weak with respect to both presence and cultural affinity with enterprises. The lever it will have to try to use to wrest share from AWS and Azure is AI/machine learning-based capabilities where Google excels, but it is not clear to me that Google can maintain a significant enough capability gap in that area over Amazon and Microsoft to make a difference. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5d0ab80a8b1e4e9bb551a6c3","create_date":"2021-07-08T15:00:03.902Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-10T20:09:44.662Z","profileid":"5c6082f0d36e1d0ab6640a01","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"To add something new here, as a practical matter hiring experienced developers with AWS on their resumes is much, much easier than finding someone who used google cloud in a production system. To reduce the risk of a cloud project, I'd rather hire an experienced person who is AWS certified. AWS has made it easy for folks to learn and get certified too.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c630dafd36e1d4659892106","create_date":"2019-02-14T08:45:21.026Z"},{"profile_id":"5b4d45d6d36e1d1f452a6d5e","create_date":"2021-12-19T08:38:08.719Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-11T00:42:11.232Z","profileid":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"It is important to have options, especially when needs vary greatly based on company size, industry, geography, talent and UI/UX preferences. Competition helps drive innovation and economies of scale drive lower costs. Do any of you feel that all three can easily co-exist and keep growing, each having their competitive differentiators and market segments? ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c59f8c9d36e1d48f75d4447","create_date":"2019-02-11T00:53:27.129Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-12T20:56:20.858Z","profileid":"5b7335edd36e1d42ea091ca7","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I don't think any of them are content with co-existing and not serving the majority of market segments. Also, GCP's new \"strategy\" is to hire more Sales Reps --> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-12/google-s-new-cloud-boss-targets-old-issue-selling-to-big-firms
","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-13T15:21:43.072Z","profileid":"5c6434a4d36e1d465989214d","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"For me, it was simply marketing. It has always been challenging to get clear and detailed information from google as to what and how the platform functioned. That builds uncertainty in the exploratory process which kills that option. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5d0ab80a8b1e4e9bb551a6c3","create_date":"2021-12-10T15:00:01.739Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-13T15:41:04.036Z","profileid":"5c603f14d36e1d06e96b7db9","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Hiba asks, “Do any of you feel that all three can easily co-exist and keep growing, each having their competitive differentiators and market segments?”
I certainly think so given the overall market will continue to grow. A key question, however, is to what degree will early moves to the cloud be essentially locked-in, making it difficult for market shares to substantially change.
","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2021-02-28T22:26:50.454Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-13T17:31:08.749Z","profileid":"5cc2038efdaa85cca81b488f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I certainly see more people asking about GCP. I agree that it has been under marketed, however the capabilities (which have been lacking) are definitely catching up","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-13T21:19:28.501Z","profileid":"5c647d39d36e1d3e174d65c5","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"The challenge with each of these are how they are positioned in the market. Each is unique and they do compete with each other - but not across the service spectrum.
AWS provides a robust and complete infrastructure and is always growing. However, making a jump to the cloud is normally not an all-or-nothing approach which makes AWS more difficult for some organizations as there is little to no support for hybrid-cloud operations or implementations. This forces new custom-integrations to be created to address transition or implementation issues. There is also the focus on public cloud with AWS. While this makes AWS a good option for those offering public-facing services, this leaves out a good percentage of the market.
Azure is probably one of the more flexible platforms out there in that it does support hybrid clouds and MPLS integration to make Azure an extension of existing data centers as well as both public and private clouds. For those running primarily a Microsoft infrastructure (especially those on an Enterprise Agreement) or those needing the flexibility and full-breadth of options, this may make the most sense. Additionally, with their growing array of SaaS products make it a good option for small businesses just getting started.
Google has always been a challenge in the enterprise market. Yes, their cloud offering is the youngest of the three - putting it at a disadvantage. Additionally, like many things offered by Google, there is a definite lack of enterprise focus. This places them even further behind AWS and Azure. One other great challenge Google faces is the lack of comprehensive or meaningful support for many of its products and its practice of simply dropping products with little notice. These historic practices may have changed for Google, but leave questions in the minds of those making cloud migration decisions. As long as Google continues with these types of practices, there will continue to be slower adoption for its enterprise products - including their cloud.
RightScale releases a \"State of the Cloud\" report each year that is worth the read. https://www.rightscale.com/lp/state-of-the-cloud
","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5b66ed94d36e1d2c12ff142c","create_date":"2020-05-04T20:52:05.563Z"},{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2019-02-16T11:52:38.26Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-15T17:07:33.725Z","profileid":"5c66ecc4d36e1d29a4470517","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Pricing model offered both by AWS and Azure is focused to attract customers by giving major incentive for 12 months, so lot of free signup for 12 months is offered by both AWS and Azure for their services.
On google size it is their standard package which is offered for free , but enterprise package costs. This is also a factor for influencing many companies who are trying cloud or component of cloud first time to lean to Aws or azure instead of google. So google might have look at their product pricing strategy.
AWS being first, had built an ecosystem with its own products and its partner products. The sheer first mover advantage has shaped its customer base. 2017 with Sagemaker they did bring AI to the bring.
Azure is looking at bundling and selling its offering as enterprise solution, they focus on all covering across all sized companies.
Contrary Google is still catching up and offering its cloud services to users using google places or other google products, but that is still a smaller list of customers comparatively. This will pickup over time.
","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5d0ab80a8b1e4e9bb551a6c3","create_date":"2021-07-09T15:00:06.365Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-15T18:27:45.119Z","profileid":"5c1152ccd36e1d5e349fbada","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"This is an excellent and useful thread for our considerations. The one item I did not see in the above comments is that Google can be simply unreliable. It has a growing reputation for deprecating products that no longer fit with its strategy. Its difficult to want to pin enterprise strategy to that balloon. ","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-19T23:02:39.836Z","profileid":"5c6c8613d36e1d3fa98917db","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"One aspect missing from this discussion is how these three solutions are being brought to market and the fact that there are other cloud solutions being used. Azure is primarily a channel play followed closely by AWS. Channel players typically have long standing relationships with their customers and bring solutions to their attention based on customer needs and partnership agreements. Google has done a poor job of supporting the channel distribution model as such many in the channel are not focused on selling Google solutions.
Most importantly, many enterprise customers do not need the public cloud, they are already operating their own private and hybrid cloud solutions. They are likely already using a co-lo operating model for their data center systems and really won't experience cost savings in the public cloud unless they spend a lot of money on system efficiency. The public cloud for enterprise is really a multi-cloud approach, using a combination of MS Azure, Rackspace or similar along with SAAS and ASPs for many services and then for those that want IAAS solutions for custom work, that is where GCP, AZ or AWS may fit in.
Google will need to play with the channel better, work on their marketing messages and improve their customer experience. Google is not a customer service driven organization and really need partners to make Google Cloud a viable solution. ","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-02-22T15:57:06.514Z","profileid":"5c701b69d36e1d2cde041d29","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"It's well known that both AWS and Azure was built on top of papers Google published since 2003. And both continue to successfully build products that are Google's under the hood. In retrospective, this circle goes something like this since about 2003 or so:
Step 1: Google publishes a paper.
Step 2: Facebook (in some cases Yahoo in the past, or the community) implements an equal or inferior version of it.
Step 3: Facebook (or others) release their implementation to the community (Apache).
Step 4: Community betters it.
Step 5: Amazon/Microsoft picks it, ships it.
Step 6: Google releases next paper…
Amazon had early mover advantage at a time when Google wasn't interested in selling compute capacity. This built an ecosystem that thrives today: thousands of developers, good blogs, technical resources, successful startups etc. They deserve to be successful.
Microsoft caught up because they enjoy the privilege of being a household name in enterprises. They don't get published about negative news as much as AWS - downtimes, data hacks and so on - yielding the image of a secure household cloud as opposed to AWS's image of a vulnerable public cloud. Microsoft is chosen over AWS because it's an easy decision to make.
All that Google needs to do, given that they are the granddaddy that made all this possible, is to convince the enterprise that they're here for the long haul and reiterate to old school IT honchos that they continue to innovate the technologies other cloud providers conveniently implement. In simpler English, good ol' marketing.
","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c92020fd36e1d2b4e1df766","create_date":"2019-03-21T00:34:29.329Z"},{"profile_id":"5c3a3baad36e1d124a89750f","create_date":"2019-06-03T07:03:16.593Z"},{"profile_id":"5d0ab80a8b1e4e9bb551a6c3","create_date":"2021-07-14T15:00:05.975Z"}],"replies":[{"createdate":"2019-04-11T09:39:38.604Z","profileid":"5c3a3baad36e1d124a89750f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Interesting facts. Thanks for sharing","upvoters":[],"replies":[]}]},{"createdate":"2019-03-07T22:38:34.698Z","profileid":"5c7f335ed36e1d4fb55c6b8d","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Simply put, GCP kept on selling product (tensor flow, big query) etc in a digital economy where everything is about solution selling. GCP has top notch technology but they need to elevate the game when it comes to providing a holistic solutions journey for a Enterprise customer ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c92020fd36e1d2b4e1df766","create_date":"2019-05-31T04:02:39.241Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-04-11T09:38:22.867Z","profileid":"5c3a3baad36e1d124a89750f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Closing the gap to AWS is something I believe is very hard. They have been in cloud business since 2006 and have built up an outstanding amount of knowledge and a high degree of credibility. However, an article on CNBC from last year showed that Amazon lost market share from 68% to 62% while Azure at the same time increased market share (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/amazon-lost-cloud-market-share-to-microsoft-in-the-fourth-quarter-keybanc.html). Google in my opinion is not interested in the big market. Their strategy appears to me pretty similar to their mobile phones. I am pretty sure that they focus on niche markets where they are specialized.\n\nComing back to AWS, I have read a couple of weeks ago that their main source of income is USA. Approximately 3/4 of their income comes from US customers. Can you confirm or do you have more information regarding this?","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5d0ab80a8b1e4e9bb551a6c3","create_date":"2021-06-27T15:00:03.221Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-04-11T10:02:38.795Z","profileid":"5b66ed94d36e1d2c12ff142c","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Seems like they are opening their eyes and about to change. The new CEO of Google Cloud plans to focus more on communication, hiring more people for the job.","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-04-11T10:02:48.897Z","profileid":"5b66ed94d36e1d2c12ff142c","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Here the link https://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-been-lacking-at-googles-cloud-enough-humans-11554724802","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-04-11T17:07:56.705Z","profileid":"5c5a021ad36e1d2b003dbb8b","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Azure is just a natural place for O365 / Power BI customers - seamless integration makes for an easy decision","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-04-12T02:54:39.126Z","profileid":"5b57ab9cd36e1d3b695215f5","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"AWS is gold standard and has so many features. Google just hasn't captured the market share. Probably because they aren't the gold standard and because their productivity suite (GSuite) really doesn't drive upsale into the cloud area. Like others have said O365 really does a good job driving folks into the broader Azure with things like Azure AD, etc., but I really put Google Cloud and Azure on the same tier 2 behind AWS.","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-04-15T15:30:57.965Z","profileid":"5c1b937ad36e1d293a4765f6","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"1. Google cloud's security model is atrocious for anyone used to an MS or *nix style security permissions setup. Users have complete control over sharing files once they're given even just read access. \n\n2. Productivity apps are \"compatible\" at least as the home user, high-school and college level but not at the enterprise level. I have relatively simple documents in Excel that would break Sheets. Think back to WP vs Office days, that's Google's productivity issue in a nutshell\n\n3. SharePoint - love it or hate it, it's a thing. Google has.... nothing to compare/compete.\n\n4. Directory integration is abysmal. \n\n5. MDM - not that great. Office 365's basic MDM is better. \n\n \n","upvoters":[],"replies":[{"createdate":"2019-04-15T15:36:21.474Z","profileid":"5c1b937ad36e1d293a4765f6","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Clarify #1 - Once user A has been given read access to a file, they can share read access with anyone they choose inside the organization. If they've been given Read/Write, they can grant those permissions as well. \n","upvoters":[],"replies":[]}]},{"createdate":"2019-04-15T15:40:25.785Z","profileid":"5c7f335ed36e1d4fb55c6b8d","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Two things that may help change the Google Cloud story from last week are:- \n\n1. Anthos; Google clearly behind in cloud race, this gives them a chance to fast track. GCP is finally understanding (or it seems) the value of solutions instead of a product. Anthos touches application modernization, cloud migration, hybrid cloud and most importantly a way to manage multi-cloud. This provides a platform, both to build new native cloud apps, and transition clunky old one by using on-prem solutions. \n\n2. Partnerships; Google Cloud instead of delivering products are now focusing on delivering solutions - and even if, that means having more partners. Time will tell, if they really do some solid partnerships, but the few they showcased shows pivoting in the right direction. \n\nA good competition for AWS and Azure. ","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c5b038cd36e1d3d1dbb5910","create_date":"2019-05-06T12:58:15.887Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2019-04-19T04:38:31.183Z","profileid":"5c5b038cd36e1d3d1dbb5910","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Google Cloud has lost to Azure and AWS. But they're steadily gaining ground.\n\nThere are already plenty of answers here as to why Google Cloud, so I'll just focus my answer on one thing - Google is NOT out yet. \n\nGoogle Cloud Platform is steadily gaining ground. In fact, I've recently interviewed remote DevOps personel (meaning, I didnt care where they're based - from the bay, spain, india, etc), and most of them prefer GCP nowadays. \n\nAWS was ground breaking a decade ago. Now, they're the \"safe bet\". And Azure has become a very viable \"me too\" alternative (Yes. I know there are significant differences. But they principally are going in the same direction. Just like iPhone and Android). \n\nOn the other hand, GCP is capitalizing on the latest trends on DevOps and containerization. It was like GCP was built just for those (as opposed to having those just as features). \n\nGCP may not be mainstream now. But I think it would be unwise to lose it from your radar.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2022-03-06T15:00:04.938Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-02-08T23:24:16.863Z","profileid":"6021bdc9de74df0001c6f8ae","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Lot’s of great insights have been shared. When asked about the three cloud leaders, I always return to their roots.\n\nAWS started out as a pure cloud implementation of compute resources, initially focused on a VM model. So, providing resources has always been at their core.\n\nGoogle has been a leader in providing API based services for developers. Google Cloud was added to provide more general resource needs to compliment their existing services.\n\nAzure has always been a hybrid. Microsoft wanted to provide cloud versions of their products and the ability to deploy apps developed using the Microsoft developer tools. \n\nAWS has largely attracted cloud-native products and Internet-facing apps for enterprises. Azure has a naturally affinity for enterprise and also industries that consider Amazon a competitor in other areas. Google has attracted developers building on top of Google services.","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-02-28T22:27:43.902Z","profileid":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"This was a popular topic.. Let's talk some more about multi-cloud. Join me here: https://www.pulse.qa/post/i-am-doing-some-independent-research-re-multi-cloud-need-help-to-1-understand-definition-multi-cloud-2-learn-if-anyone-successfully","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2021-02-28T22:34:19.008Z"},{"profile_id":"5c7dd695d36e1d4fb55c6b5e","create_date":"2021-11-21T16:11:16.208Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-11-17T05:39:31.725Z","profileid":"618f5c239504a700014e38cb","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I would think of the below.\n\n\n1. Google does not seem aggressive in onboarding new clientele. Their sales and tech staff are lethargic, and are less patient listening to client system architecture, not knowledgable about their own services listing\n2. They seem to target the existing AWS and Azure clients, without knowing the equivalent services offered by GCP (say SES, SNS, Service Monitors)\n3. AWS is highly innovative, the oldest in this space, while Azure ate a big pie due to their own products (read SQL server, windows, O365). GCP has neither experience nor any line of products already in use by the industry","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5d0ab80a8b1e4e9bb551a6c3","create_date":"2021-11-17T16:59:43.022Z"},{"profile_id":"603d4689570285000131b2b6","create_date":"2021-11-18T22:59:45.723Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-11-20T03:51:44.629Z","profileid":"5c7dd695d36e1d4fb55c6b5e","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I’m not sure they were ever really gaining share.","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-11-21T02:25:08.935Z","profileid":"60bbd8d448b3050001e3ae3f","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Inability to lure developers to the platform","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c7f5742d36e1d4fb55c6b95","create_date":"2021-11-23T22:59:46.33Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-12-13T18:59:30.091Z","profileid":"5c79ce6136c6bcd1f63c6d52","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I feel, its more related to complexity, skill and adoption. AWS and Azure are more simpler than Google and easier to train and develop the skills across the platform. So directly the adoption level go up.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2021-12-14T04:59:42.72Z"},{"profile_id":"5c636311d36e1d4659892133","create_date":"2021-12-15T10:59:43.629Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-12-15T13:07:04.202Z","profileid":"6171d4df20f8c5000140a244","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I cannot say for AWS (other than the fact that 99% of the SaaS applications we use is hosted on AWS), but as a company with a Microsoft Enterprise Agreement, going Azure is almost a no-brainer. \n\n\nI would not even look at Google Cloud.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a6cc2e0d36e1d5bc4265fa2","create_date":"2021-12-15T22:59:42.596Z"},{"profile_id":"613e096a803ac900019c7a8b","create_date":"2021-12-26T22:24:20.217Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-12-16T17:12:03.252Z","profileid":"600bc7f9c56a7be28c186622","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"AWS and Azure are leading respectively in this sphere for a very reason that both have built their infrastructure specifically for enterprise use with flexi plans and rate cards. Wherein, Google lacks focus on making it commercially viable and their marketing team indeed not competent enough.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c7ef23036c6bcd1f6948061","create_date":"2021-12-16T20:48:20.441Z"},{"profile_id":"5a5ed50cd36e1d61d859208e","create_date":"2021-12-17T04:59:42.989Z"},{"profile_id":"5c636311d36e1d4659892133","create_date":"2021-12-18T10:59:45.858Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2021-12-17T12:57:03.563Z","profileid":"60bf20969476c02e2030eddf","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Yes. AWS is the easiest to adopt and Azure is a natural extension because of o365 office. Google dont have good support team.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5c7f5742d36e1d4fb55c6b95","create_date":"2021-12-17T22:59:43.154Z"},{"profile_id":"5c79bd09d36e1d4fb55c6ad7","create_date":"2021-12-19T04:59:45.18Z"},{"profile_id":"613e096a803ac900019c7a8b","create_date":"2021-12-26T22:23:58.077Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2022-01-05T13:48:26.051Z","profileid":"618f5c239504a700014e3846","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"They are late in the cloud race, but slowly am seeing they are catching up on the market. With recent issues with AWS on security, some of the clients are reaching to Google and also due to their Analytics service on the cloud.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5eebec1020f9b9b81713fa18","create_date":"2022-01-05T22:59:42.721Z"},{"profile_id":"5c636311d36e1d4659892133","create_date":"2022-01-07T04:59:46.642Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2022-01-05T14:23:06.373Z","profileid":"5cc20396fdaa85cca81b49f9","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"I think Google has done a poor job of marketing GCP.\n\nFar too many tech execs know of Azure and AWS, but don’t know about GCP. And that’s a shame.","upvoters":[],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2022-01-05T14:39:17.117Z","profileid":"5e7c0987f753a9395a16a297","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Ma perception is that the corporate part of google cloud il lease professional and better for consumers.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5eebec1020f9b9b81713fa18","create_date":"2022-01-05T22:59:46.158Z"},{"profile_id":"603d4689570285000131b2b6","create_date":"2022-01-07T04:59:45.322Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2022-01-15T14:37:45.421Z","profileid":"619c6a23321b4f00012cb9c9","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Google is not loosing any battle on cloud, it is just discovering that enterprises operate differently. It just needs to understand the needs and accomplish them differently. Its own operating model cannot be applied in Enterprises. \n\n\nIf given an option, any organisation, will choose a provider which is near its practise and offers the flexibility to implement the solutions the way the organisation wants. No Enterprise likes boundaries. \n\n\nGoogle on the other hand, has completely different method of support, development and selling. They have been advocating the scalability and resilience, The way they build and operate is hyper scalar which may not be the need at all. \n\n\nBetween them they all have a start and that is what gives them the edge, a few thoughts from me. \n\n\nAmazon started with focus on leasing / renting small machines, mostly focussed on utilising the spare capacity and meeting small demands arising from their engagement with suppliers and providers. And the obvious first mover advantage. The portfolio is immense and it is jack of all and master of none. \n\n\nMicrosoft has had a history of solutions which were targeted at multiple tiers of Industry. Years of learning for a spectrum that goes to small to large enterprises. Azure, did not offer cloud specific and cloud native tools till recently, all offerings were an automatic provisioning of the product portfolio that existed. Office was a master stroke, but this was done to wade off threat from Gmail. \n\n\nOracle has been using its history of selling Database technology and now offering the software that it has in its portfolio as a service as well. And expanding by offering other services. Offering Oracle Database reliably in cloud will remain their advantage, as most of the vendors will take time to develop and use other database technologies for Enterprise Software Products. \n\n\nGoogle on the other hand focussed on freelancers, technologists and web developers with their tools and primarily application development for mobile and web. Enterprise engagement came into the mix when large enterprises saw value in using its Big Data tools, Andriod Development and efficiencies, and with engagement they started building for other areas. Gmail was the free SaaS offering, which really brought them into the game for enterprises. \n\n\nThe differentiator between them is quickly vanishing as they start doing more and become price competitive in the future. Every enterprise today is looking at ways to remain flexible in choice, this opens doors for incumbents and additional players. The leader will be the one that onboards the differentiators quickly and allows flexibility, allowing new services and the obvious "capacity + resilience".","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5a6cc2e0d36e1d5bc4265fa2","create_date":"2022-01-15T22:59:43.057Z"},{"profile_id":"5e76a071d36e1d2bf9c1bac0","create_date":"2022-01-16T01:58:56Z"},{"profile_id":"5decadcdd36e1d20e0928bf5","create_date":"2022-01-16T16:42:57.678Z"},{"profile_id":"603d4689570285000131b2b6","create_date":"2022-01-17T04:59:45.373Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2022-01-25T16:29:31.99Z","profileid":"61f00c9c4267680001b043c9","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"Amazon's approach to building their platform was "to be our own best customer" so it was designed with customers in mind. Microsoft was driven from the perspective of being the operating system for the internet so it's become a natural home for an Office environment. GCP seems late to the party and playing catch-up. If you compare Google Docs to Office 365, you can see a tremendous difference. Simple tasks you could do in most office applications are not supported and creating presentations in Google Docs makes me embarrassed at the quality that can be quickly created in other platforms. It's easy to find documentation on the more mature AWS and Azure platforms making them the natural home for most people to develop in.\n\n\nWe haven'y mentioned other cloud providers like HP and IBM. My current experience is that these are still stuck in a physical age where if you want more disk-space, you have to put in a request for an engineer to add it. We need hyper-automation and elastic capabilities and for that, their is really only one place to go. This makes it more complicated when pursing a multi-cloud strategy to reduce the problems of vendor lock-in.\n\n\nSo if you start from a Microsoft Office and AD, the natural home is Azure, if you are more of a Linux based organisation, AWS is the more natural home. GCP really then has to compete with AWS and AWS seems to be more mature and easy to adopt.\n\n\nThese are just my experiences so far.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"60261c2de8ecb20001777e92","create_date":"2022-01-27T20:29:49.842Z"},{"profile_id":"61f00c9c4267680001b043c9","create_date":"2022-02-03T18:40:30.558Z"},{"profile_id":"5c636311d36e1d4659892133","create_date":"2022-04-14T04:02:12.163Z"}],"replies":[{"createdate":"2022-02-07T21:04:36.135Z","profileid":"61fc9ab5ced2100001d37d12","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"The statement that Azure is the natural home for Microsoft Office and AD is absolutely untrue to the point of being FUD.","upvoters":[{"profile_id":"5eebec1020f9b9b81713fa18","create_date":"2022-02-08T04:59:42.818Z"},{"profile_id":"5c636311d36e1d4659892133","create_date":"2022-02-09T10:59:49.21Z"}],"replies":[]},{"createdate":"2022-02-07T21:06:12.62Z","profileid":"61fc9ab5ced2100001d37d12","anonymous_author":null,"anonymous":false,"text":"AWS runs DOUBLE the number of Microsoft workloads that Azure does. 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